Why do people

topic posted Wed, December 13, 2006 - 6:52 AM by  SteamPoof!
go about looking for love with their heads
or their hearts
instead of their spirits?
posted by:
SteamPoof!
Seattle
  • Re: Why do people

    Wed, December 13, 2006 - 3:30 PM
    perhaps it is because fear crushes our spirits
    and many if not most of us in this country
    are indoctrinated with fear from a very young age
    thats what the christen cults do
    in my opinion!!!
    just a theory
    • Re: Why do people

      Tue, January 2, 2007 - 2:54 AM
      Thanks for taking me seriously.

      It's sad.

      But I am starting to shrug and remember that that's them
      and I am about, well, something else.
      • Re: Why do people

        Tue, January 2, 2007 - 9:53 AM
        yes
        i am about something else too
        but i still struggle with fear

        i remember as a child
        i questioned the meanness the war
        the hypocrisy of those
        who called themselves christiens
        the institution of racism
        that my family is so steeped in
        i recognized it all as lies

        but as i aged in that culture
        i became more callous
        and weaker of heart and intuition

        when i left out of disgust and desperation
        i found a new strength
        but there is still fear in my heart
        and it has caused me great pain
        but at least this fear and pain are my own
        and that i WILL conquer
        SO MOTE IT BE
    • Re: Why do people

      Wed, March 21, 2007 - 12:00 AM
      are you saying that all christens are cults? Or are you just talking about the relatively tiny group of folks whom are ganged-up on by the same-old-again media and labeled cults?

      If you're talkin about the christen religion, that's no "theory"! Systematic recording of patterns prove the analysis that religions, when they're subordinated to statecraft (even in a mono-theist state), make and perpetuate war, despite claims to the contrar.
  • Re: Why do people

    Tue, January 2, 2007 - 4:13 PM
    i think that maybe people don't know their spirit. we can point fingers at organized religion or we can accept that society really does not have a lot of tolerance for spiritual indulgence. let's face it, it just doesn't "pay off". for those who have turned there backs on the money god we find that there is more to life. many just aren't there yet.

    my two cents: if you are looking for love with your spirit, you will find it. stick with it ergane and don't let the others get you down.
    • i wonder, andrew...

      Wed, March 21, 2007 - 12:06 AM
      As one who is no longer looking for love (preferring to let such land on my shoulder), i have to wonder about this largely pre-ordained (how do ya like that word?) concept we so often uncritically subordinate to. i mean, often we're looking for *just one* person. But what if we saw that we could find love in *many*?

      This is a topic sure to get people's goats!

      Anyway, my praxis moves me to *avoid* monogamous relations all settled down and such. And to give, share, and receive angles on love when spirit, heart, intuition feels like allowing me to interpret such (or something like that)!

      Intergalacticly,
      touch ah-city
  • Re: Why do people

    Tue, February 13, 2007 - 6:38 PM
    Rumi agrees, and I with him:

    "Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all barriers within yourself that you have built against it."

    "I honor the place in you where the entire universe resides. I honor the place in you of love, of light, of truth, of peace.
    I honor the place within you, where, if you are in that place in you, and I am in that place in me, there is only one of us"
  • Re: Why do people

    Sat, March 10, 2007 - 2:47 PM
    i get it, it is like a knock knock ......who's there.....

    .(...seriously.... it is a matter of personal evolution i suppose....)

    or..... i don't know.... tell us..... Why???
    • Re: Why do people

      Thu, March 22, 2007 - 10:53 AM
      to quote the Beatles song ".......& in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make..."

      maybe cliche, but so right on.

      EVERYTHING you put out you will get back in your life..."good" or "bad".
      also, i think its dangerous to equate love with sex or "getting" something (objects, praise, etc..)

      so...put out love vibes, and you will recieve!!!
  • Re: Why do people

    Mon, April 2, 2007 - 12:40 AM
    because such is the way we've been taught?

    that's how i tend to think.

    As for the very idea of "looking for love"...i think that's a value unique to developed societies which don't have a lot of love (i.e. love from still intact extended families).

    So, what do you mean by "looking for love" and doing so with one's spirit, as opposed to (?) heart?
  • Re: Why do people

    Wed, April 4, 2007 - 4:12 PM
    headz heartz spriits...ALL ARE THE SAME.....CHOOSE WHAT WORKS
    • Re: Why do people

      Thu, April 12, 2007 - 6:51 PM
      No, i've been moved to see that there's a difference between "head" and "heart" as metaphors. "Head" often means mind, and mind is often equated, in many indigenous and Eastern-origined teachings anyways, with our social programming. If you're further interested in this topic, you might do well to read through _The Four Agreements_ by Toltec wisdom keeper, don Miguel Ruiz.

      "Heart" is deeper for indigenous and Eastern-oriented folks, and i think this is a metaphor or poetic thing. But the poetic touches something deep nonetheless, the intuition. The deep resonance we "just feel" in certain situations or places. And calling such "heart" is an attempt to, i think, compare the depth-way in which the heart acts (throughout the body) with the depth-way of our intuitions.

      But if this sounds like mere semantics to you, feel free to follow your "mind"!

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